Talk:Theories

Cultural reference

Perhaps the story of Japanese comedian "Nasubi" (Tomoaki Hamatsu) served as a point of inspiration for Kikiyama? Nasubi was locked in an apartment for over a year in 1998, after unkowningly becoming involved in a disturbing reality TV stunt. He had to enter contests to win things for survival, and was allowed nothing else. He would only be released once he'd won one million Yen worth of prizes.

There are a number of similarities: He won a TV, but had no antennae or cable (Madotsuki's TV has no reception). He had only magazines for entertainment initially (Madotsuki has a bookshelf full of presumably books/magazines). He later won a playstation with only one game, similar to Madotsuki's Famicom with only one game. This could be why her Famicom game is named Nasu and has the eggplant theme - his nickname also means "eggplant", which he was given due to his unusually long face. He kept a diary while being locked in the room. It later became a best-selling book. The diary concept is obviously central to Yume Nikki.

It could be that Madotsuki has been locked in her room for months, or even years, in a bizarre social/psycological experiment such as Nasubi, and has been driven mad by the experience, or it could simply be that the concept inspired Kikiyama and he added some small details to Yume Nikki in tribute.

The original English article about Nasubi's experience has been since removed, but can still be accessed via the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine: Archived Nasubi article Link

174.31.168.212 19:05, October 30, 2012 (UTC)

• Huh. I'd never heard of that guy before. As a theory, it certainly bears remarkable similarities to the game. That's quite interesting actually.// TenhGrey (talk) 21:21, October 30, 2012 (UTC)
  • I thought so, too. I was surprised when I first learned about Nasubi (quite randomly) as the similarities jumped out at me. After reading theories/posts about YN ad nauseum, I was surprised that no one else seems to have heard of him since it sounds like it was a pretty big event in Japan at the time. It's one of the only possible real-world connections I've seen to YN, everything else is just random speculation save for the mention of Paracas/Nazca cultural art in the game. It'd be interesting to read Nasubi's diary to see if there's any other connections, but I don't know much Japanese. At any rate, I think it'd be nice to have a mention of the Nasubi story somewhere on the wiki, but I wanted to have some feedback on it before changing any articles. I think the Paracas art style (maybe with some comparison images) should have a mention also. Maybe the top of the Theories page could have a section of cultural similarities/connections, with the fan speculations following? 174.31.168.212 23:18, November 1, 2012 (UTC)
    • Yeah, it's definitely worth a mention, and it's a more substantially objective game theory than most. I've been meaning to refurbish this theories page for a while now, but it's completely overgrown and messy. I'll probably get around to it eventually, sometime after I sort out the list of characters page (I'm working on it, slowly)
      I remember writing a whole section on the Mesoamerican-style art in the game on the Aztec Rave Monkey article - Take a look at that. I know it's probably not specifically Aztec art, but that's just the name most people associate with the whole Pre-European Americas culture as a general term. I'm no expert.
      But yeah. However you want to change this article, feel free. You can only make it better.// TenhGrey (talk) 03:59, November 2, 2012 (UTC)

Already taken care of

This page doesn't need to be. Most theories are already covered on the individual character pages. Anything concerning Madotsuki's real life is usually covered in her article. This is just another bulky summarisation page, and looks like it was written with no regard to professionalism on top of it. 74.194.224.252 17:51, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

NO U

There are alot of theories that arent categorized that should be on Theories. You don't see theories for Shitai on the wiki, yeah?

Edit: Looking over my article, I see what you mean by "no professionalism". I spend a lot of time on ED more than any other wiki, and it kinda traumatized me.

I'll edit it if anyone has a problem with it. I still stand by my opinion though, that there should be a theories page that tends to almost every character.

Do it. Do everything to make this page more professional and less like it was written by a pre-pubescent 4channer. You also need to link character theories to their respective character pages. 74.194.224.252 10:16, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Spoilers

My dislike of fan "theories" aside, this page spoils the ending. Why does everyone insist on spoiling things Not all of us come here having played all the way through...

I mean, I know it should be expected, but I didn't even know it was possible to "finish" this game.. The way you guys write everything, the way the game involves exploration, this all lead me to believe that the game had no ending and that there was no clear evidence that you obtained all the effects.

There should be a spoiler note or something.. It isn't just this page. A lot of the pages here describe exactly how to get to something, exactly what the thing does and exactly what all the secrets of the thing are right inside of the header. I don't think everyone comes here for the purpose of reminiscing about a game they already played, and because of the nature of this game giving people exact instructions to finding something ruins the purpose and could be considered cheating.

EDIT: Okay, I just realized this was really dumb idea and I still kinda feel tempted to believe this way, but this was just a stupid comment and I no longer support it.. In any case, the way in which I still believe I would like to see it done requires a great deal of explanation on my behalf and is probably only something peculiar to my own overly-specific anti-spoiler/spoiler needs which really probably have more to do with how much I suck at this game. That being said, feel free to discuss it regardless.. Just don't involve me in it directly.. Pretend it was like written by some person that used to have my username or.. or something....Kazekra 03:09, December 28, 2009 (UTC)

• Well, I agree that some pages need spoiler tags (especially those that refer to the ending), but with this being a wiki and all we should try to include as much information as possible. It's not very informative as a comprehensive index of Yume Nikki if things are intentionally left out or put vaguely. TenhGrey 19:24, March 4, 2011 (UTC)
• I think a warn about spoilers is really needed. In the top of the page, like on Wikipedia and other Wikis, something like "This article contains spoilers about the ending of the game. Continue to read at your own risk.", because I didn't know how Yume Nikki ended before reading this page and it spoiled me the ending. I regret nothing, but other people could. Sorry for my mistakes, english is not my mother language ^^" NingyoHimeDoll 17:31, January 14, 2012 (UTC)
  • OK. There's a big red spoiler warning after the introduction now. (I'm not sure why I didn't put it there before actually)//TenhGrey 22:43, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

WMG

Should we include TVTropes page for WMG? The WMG part is explicitly for nonsensical theories combined with lame jokes and memes. Although they do have more fleshed out versions of the ones here, they also have ones that make little sense. ObliterationoftheSelf 23:01, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

One theory

perhaps the piano's teacher was the husband of the woman with the bloody bloated stomach and the girl in the cave and his sister were his daughters. They died in the accident and the husband in train accident.Sorry for my bad inglish

Yes, the raped Madotsuki reminds me of something, The flying severed woman head and the eyeball creatures.76.116.252.63 21:11, September 26, 2013 (UTC)