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Urobot / Longest path problem in 2kki

wrote a code for the longest path one can take from a fresh save of 2kki without passing over the same world twice. (wrote a tsuki tbh)

The current path was reached and found by uro #40553/3543, and is 240 worlds (from The Nexus) deep. it does not contain any luck-based connections.

Path: Urotsuki's RoomUrotsuki's Dream BalconyUrotsuki's Dream RoomThe NexusPudding WorldOrange BadlandsDonut Hole WorldTheatre WorldNeon Candle WorldCloud TopsArt GalleryBlue ForestSchoolHat WorldAlazan DomainForest of Strange FacesBlood Red HouseMicrobiome WorldBacteria WorldColor CapitalDark ForestGray RoadSerene DocksUnderwater ForestStony BuildingsSugar RoadOvergrown CondominiumWhipped Cream WorldButterfly PassageAlien ValleyBleeding Heads GardenRed Streetlight WorldAmorphous Maroon SpaceUnending RiverUrotsuki's Dream ApartmentsTricolor RoomCloud FloorCandy WorldRed Lily LakeGraveyard WorldHospitalIntestines MazeBlood WorldStone MazeChocolate WorldForest WorldAstral WorldFrozen GladeGlowing Stars WorldSandstone Brick MazePin Cushion VineyardPop RevoirPortrait PurgatoryReverie Book PilesIllusive ForestTorii TrailBlue Screen VoidSunset HillSunflower FieldsMini-NexusTeru Teru Bozu PondSomber EstablishmentSepia Clouds WorldSpelling RoomSaturated Eyeball ZoneNetherworldThe Deciding StreetHeart WorldValentine LandSign WorldPower PlantWhite Fern WorldApartmentsForlorn Beach HouseMushroom WorldBug MazeThe Hand HubDark BunkerSpear Tribe WorldSubterranean Research CenterHollowsEntomophobia RealmSpore ForestSpiked Fence GardenCliffside WoodsFrigid MeadowGlacier MazeRough Ash WorldSewersMonochrome Feudal JapanFC BasementTopdown DungeonMonochrome GB WorldNail WorldWarehouseGrass WorldDream VenusSpaceshipCipher KeyboardDespair RoadBroken Faces AreaFloating Red Tiles WorldTeddy Bear LandThe DocksOcean FloorHourglass DesertDark RoomMarijuana Goddess WorldColor Cubes WorldFC Caverns CHome Within NowherePure White LandsLamplit StonesField of CosmosBubble WorldRed SewersMarshmallow Shallows3D UnderworldKaleidoscope WorldGlowing Tree PathOblique HellGlitched Butterfly SectorSierpinski MazeVirtual CityRiver ComplexHighwayDownfall Garden AClawtree ForestShield Owl WorldFlooded BathsAtlantisUnderwater Amusement ParkTrain TracksCloset Pinwheel PathJapan TownDark MuseumGeometry WorldStone WorldDigital Hand HubHolographic ChamberEther CavernsChaos ExhibitionDark WarehouseSeaside VillageHeian Era VillageBridged Swamp IslandsCultivated LandsWhite Black WorldOnyx Tile WorldFused Faces WorldCrazed Faces MazeBlue House RoadBlue RestaurantUnderground LakeAquamarine CaveSandy PlainsExhibitionAstronomical GalleryButterfly GardenSakura ForestShinto ShrineMonochrome StreetRed Brick MazeFrench StreetBlackjack ManorScrapyardCigarette WorldPlaying Card DungeonMaple ForestAzure DepthsLaundromatWine CellarFloating Beer IsleSushi WorldFour Seasons ForestOriental DojoNazca ValleyHoneybee LaboratoryEnergy ComplexSerum LaboratoryDark Cheese HellMole MineStained Glass CosmoTarnished ShipToxic Chemical WorldGreenhouseFloristShop RuinsHalloween ZoneCocktail LoungeCyber MazeSea Lily WorldMutant Pig FarmStomach MazeSculpture ParkParking GarageCrimson LabyrinthAncient CryptEntropy DungeonAureate ClockworksMonolith JungleTwilight ParkLost ShoalNeon SeaBlue Cactus IslandsGraffiti CityChalkboard PlaygroundGhost TownMisty BridgesSnowy VillageCat CemeteryDoll HouseTesla GardenDreary DrainsSilent SewersRuined GardenRusted CityStrange Plants WorldUnderground LaboratoryPolluted SwampThe RooftopsSymbolonData StreamBinary WorldCircuit BoardShogi BoardOthello BoardDay and Night TowersToy WorldWooden Block WorldChicken WorldLemon WorldTotem HotelEverblue CityCheckered Postal PathWindswept FieldsGolden Mechanical TowerTomato WorldOmurice LabyrinthRotten Fish LakeTrophy Animal LandMaroon GravehouseLibra PalaceMoonview Lane

You will obtain 16 effects in total during the trek, which are: Lantern, School Boy, Child, Plaster Cast, Penguin, Marginal, Telephone, Rainbow, Chainsaw, Crossing, Bike, Tissue, Maiko, Polygon, Boy and Glasses.

Badge Requirements

Screenshots and Badge Gallery gets affected by BP and number of Badges now, here are the requirements.

The current max you can get is 18580 BP and 896 Badges, with 7 by 7 Badge Gallery and 60 Screenshot slots.

we are dangerously close to 20000 bp though, that would be some serious milestone. keep badging yall

Badge Gallery

Rows 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
BP ~300 ~1000 ~2000 ~4000 ~7500 ~12500 ~20000 ~30000 ~50000 ~∞
Columns 3 4 5 6 7
Badges ~50 ~150 ~300 ~500 ~∞

Screenshot slots

Slots 10 15 20 25 30 35 40 45 50 55 60 65 70 75
BP ~100 ~250 ~500 ~1000 ~2500 ~5000 ~7500 ~10000 ~12500 ~15000 ~17500 ~20000 ~25000 ~∞

Advanced V44 Identification

I wonder how precise you can figure out the 44 value with minimal moving

just as a heads up, if you plan on following the guide I advise rerolling until you get a non-standard Gray Road weather (that isnt sunny).

This section will also frequently mention the Antiquated Bathhouse triggers since its currently one of the hardest V44 triggers (most V44 triggers dont need this much discerns). The numbers are: 0, 1, 2, 3, 28, 29, 30, 31, 56, 57, 58, 59, 84, 85, 86, 87, 112, 113, 114, 115, 140, 141, 142, 143, 168, 169, 170, 171, 196, 197, 198, 199, 224, 225, 226, 227, 252, 253, 254 and 255.

Basics

stuff listed on the page basically, not going too far deep though

  • The Nexus
    Color of the background (<=127: Gray, >=128: Blue)
    Possible Values: 0 ~ 127, 128 ~ 255
  • Urotsuki's Dream Apartments: Seishonen's Room
    Letter of the Painting (0~61: あ, 62: ■, 63~126: ぬ, 127~191: は, 192~136: を, 237~255: ぺ)
    Possible Values: 0 ~ 61, 62, 63 ~ 126, 127, 128 ~ 191, 192 ~ 236, 237 ~ 255
  • Blob Desert (assuming you have the phone connection to Sugar Road like any good 2kki vet, should not be too far)
    Bleeding blob on the entrance (>=218: Bleeding)
    Possible Values: 0 ~ 61, 62, 63 ~ 126, 127, 128 ~ 191, 192 ~ 217, 218 ~ 236, 237 ~ 255
  • Astronomical Gallery
    Whether the books next to the owl is present (<=40: exists)
    no need to check the painting since we'll be checking for 180 on the next pass.
    Possible Values: 0 ~ 40, 41 ~ 61, 62, 63 ~ 126, 127, 128 ~ 191, 192 ~ 217, 218 ~ 236, 237 ~ 255

for values 62 and 127, the value is completely known.

Real Stuff

Alright, now throw all of that basic stuff out the window because we are going to break this wide open- thanks to the two specific worlds.

  • Portrait Collection
    The existence of Portrait Collection in general (>=140: exists)
    Possible Values: 0 ~ 40, 41 ~ 61, 62, 63 ~ 126, 127, 128 ~ 139, 140 ~ 191, 192 ~ 217, 218 ~ 236, 237 ~ 255
  • Gray Road
    The weather (LAST DIGIT 0~4: Sunny, 5: Cloudy, 6: Light Rain, 7: Heavy Rain, 8: Medium Rain, 9: Snow)
    Possible Values: 0 ~ 40, 41 ~ 61, 62, 63 ~ 126, 127, 128 ~ 139, 140 ~ 191, 192 ~ 217, 218 ~ 236, 237 ~ 255 but you also know the last digit
  • Grass World
    Pupula-Toru since ur at gray road already (0~20: Lying, 20~179: Awake, 180~229: Sleeping, 230~255: Sleeping but even lower head)
    This is where the 180 is discerned (instead of Astronomical gallery)
    Possible Values: 0 ~ 19, 20 ~ 40, 41 ~ 61, 62, 63 ~ 126, 127, 128 ~ 139, 140 ~ 179, 180 ~ 191, 192 ~ 217, 218 ~ 229, 230 ~ 236, 237 ~ 255 but you also know the last digit
  • Visine World: Eye Shop
    Position of Megusuri Uri (WHEN DIVIDED BY 3, REMAINDER 0: in the main area, 1: in the shop, 2: in hakoko room)
    Possible Values: 0 ~ 19, 20 ~ 40, 41 ~ 61, 62, 63 ~ 126, 127, 128 ~ 139, 140 ~ 179, 180 ~ 191, 192 ~ 217, 218 ~ 229, 230 ~ 236, 237 ~ 255 but you also know the last digit AND the number mod 3
  • Chocolate World
    Position of the Dark Room entrance (0~99: Dark, 100~199: White, 200~255: Mixed)
    Possible Values: 0 ~ 19, 20 ~ 40, 41 ~ 61, 62, 63 ~ 99, 100 ~ 126, 127, 128 ~ 139, 140 ~ 179, 180 ~ 191, 192 ~ 199, 200 ~ 217, 218 ~ 229, 230 ~ 236, 237 ~ 255 but you also know the last digit AND the number mod 3
  • Vending Machine Factory
    Whether the shadow lady exists (WHEN DIVIDED BY 7, REMAINDER 2~6: exists)
    The values where the shadow lady does not appear are: 0, 1, 7, 8, 14, 15, 21, 22, 28, 29, 35, 36, 42, 43, 49, 50, 56, 57, 63, 64, 70, 71, 77, 78, 84, 85, 91, 92, 98, 99, 105, 106, 112, 113, 119, 120, 126, 127, 133, 134, 140, 141, 147, 148, 154, 155, 161, 162, 168, 169, 175, 176, 182, 183, 189, 190, 196, 197, 203, 204, 210, 211, 217, 218, 224, 225, 231, 232, 238, 239, 245, 246, 252 and 253.

The current groupings of possible values are like such. groups where shadow lady does not appear are italicized.

  Outside (%3=0) Shop (%3=1) Hakoko (%3=2)
Sunny (0~4) 0, (3, 12), 21, 42, (24, 30, 33), (51, 54, 60), (63, 70, 84), (73, 81, 90, 93), (102, 111, 114, 123), 120, 132, (141, 162), (144, 150, 153, 171, 174), 180, 183, 192, (201, 213), (204, 210), 222, 231, 234, (240, 243), 252 1, (4, 10, 13), (22, 31, 34, 40), (52, 61), 43, (64, 71, 91), (74, 82, 94), (100, 103, 121, 124), 112, 130, 133, (142, 151, 160, 163, 172), 154, (181, 184), 190, 193, (202, 214), 211, (220, 223), 232, (241, 244, 250), 253 (2, 11), 14, (20, 23, 32), (41, 44, 50, 53), 62, (72, 80, 83), 92, (101, 104, 110, 122), 113, 131, 134, (140, 161), (143, 152, 164, 170, 173), 182, 191, 194, (200, 212), 203, 221, 224, (230, 233), (242, 251, 254)
Cloudy (5) 15, 45, 75, 105, (135, 165), 195, 225, 255 25, 55, 85, 115, 145, 175, 205, 235 5, 35, (65, 95), 125, 155, 185, 215, 245
Light Rain (6) 6, 36, (66, 96), 126, 156, 186, 216, 246 16, 46, 76, 106, (136, 166), 196, 226 26, 56, 86, 116, (146, 176), 206, 236
Heavy Rain (7) 27, 57, 87, 117, 147, 177, 207, 237 7, 37, (67, 97), 127, 157, 187, 217, 247 17, 47, 77, 107, (137, 167), 197, 227
Medium Rain (8) 18, 48, 78, 108, 138, 168, 198, 228 28, 58, 88, 118, 148, 178, 208, 238 8, 38, 68, 98, 128, 158, 188, 218, 248
Snow (9) 9, 39, 69, 99, 129, 159, 189, 219, 249 19, 49, 79, 109, 139, 169, 199, 229 29, 59, 89, 119, (149, 179), 209, 239

each set represent a group of numbers that is ambiguous with each other at the current state.

Become Unreasonable

From now on, we will utilize every dream worlds to discern the value. If you're looking for something practical, the sections above should have you covered. In short, this is Science Territory.

Discerned values will be notified and then removed from the values list.

  • Shadow Lady Estate
    Ability to pet both cats (>=80: two cats, otherwise only one)
    Newly discernable numbers: 65 to 67, 72 to 74, 84, 91, 95 to 97
    Possible Values: (2, 11), (3, 12), (4, 10, 13), (20, 23, 32), (22, 31, 34, 40), (24, 30, 33), (41, 44, 50, 53), (51, 54, 60), (52, 61), (63, 70), (64, 71), (80, 83), (81, 90, 93), (82, 94), (100, 103, 121, 124), (101, 104, 110, 122), (102, 111, 114, 123), (135, 165), (136, 166), (137, 167), (140, 161), (141, 162), (142, 151, 160, 163, 172), (143, 152, 164, 170, 173), (144, 150, 153, 171, 174), (146, 176), (149, 179), (181, 184), (200, 212), (201, 213), (202, 214), (204, 210), (220, 223), (230, 233), (240, 243), (241, 244, 250), (242, 251, 254)
  • Abandoned Apartments
    We return to the events page to see the well monster (170~249: green, 250~255: red)
    Newly discernable numbers: 146, 149, 172, 176, 179, 242, 250
    Possible Values: (2, 11), (3, 12), (4, 10, 13), (20, 23, 32), (22, 31, 34, 40), (24, 30, 33), (41, 44, 50, 53), (51, 54, 60), (52, 61), (63, 70), (64, 71), (80, 83), (81, 90, 93), (82, 94), (100, 103, 121, 124), (101, 104, 110, 122), (102, 111, 114, 123), (135, 165), (136, 166), (137, 167), (140, 161), (141, 162), (142, 151, 160, 163), (143, 152, 164), (144, 150, 153), (170, 173), (171, 174), (181, 184), (200, 212), (201, 213), (202, 214), (204, 210), (220, 223), (230, 233), (240, 243), (241, 244), (251, 254)
    by checking the monster, Laundromat's number (250 or above) is also discerned.
  • Pillar Ark
    sad uro (129~144: exists)
    Newly discernable numbers: 135 to 137, 140 to 144, 161, 162, 165 to 167
    Possible Values: (2, 11), (3, 12), (4, 10, 13), (20, 23, 32), (22, 31, 34, 40), (24, 30, 33), (41, 44, 50, 53), (51, 54, 60), (52, 61), (63, 70), (64, 71), (80, 83), (81, 90, 93), (82, 94), (100, 103, 121, 124), (101, 104, 110, 122), (102, 111, 114, 123), (151, 160, 163), (152, 164), (150, 153), (170, 173), (171, 174), (181, 184), (200, 212), (201, 213), (202, 214), (204, 210), (220, 223), (230, 233), (240, 243), (241, 244), (251, 254)
  • Sanctuary
    Door (>=210: open)
    Newly discernable numbers: 200 to 202, 204, 210, 212 to 214
    Possible Values: (2, 11), (3, 12), (4, 10, 13), (20, 23, 32), (22, 31, 34, 40), (24, 30, 33), (41, 44, 50, 53), (51, 54, 60), (52, 61), (63, 70), (64, 71), (80, 83), (81, 90, 93), (82, 94), (100, 103, 121, 124), (101, 104, 110, 122), (102, 111, 114, 123), (151, 160, 163), (152, 164), (150, 153), (170, 173), (171, 174), (181, 184), (220, 223), (230, 233), (240, 243), (241, 244), (251, 254)
  • GALAXY Town
    phonograph (<=65: exists)
    Newly discernable numbers: 63, 64, 70, 71
    Possible Values: (2, 11), (3, 12), (4, 10, 13), (20, 23, 32), (22, 31, 34, 40), (24, 30, 33), (41, 44, 50, 53), (51, 54, 60), (52, 61), (80, 83), (81, 90, 93), (82, 94), (100, 103, 121, 124), (101, 104, 110, 122), (102, 111, 114, 123), (151, 160, 163), (152, 164), (150, 153), (170, 173), (171, 174), (181, 184), (220, 223), (230, 233), (240, 243), (241, 244), (251, 254)

We've been going to relatively close places, but from now it's actually economically nonviable.

  • Blue Streetlight World
    Laughing uro (43~58: exists)
    Newly discernable numbers: 41, 52, 60, 61
    Possible Values: (2, 11), (3, 12), (4, 10, 13), (20, 23, 32), (22, 31, 34, 40), (24, 30, 33), (44, 50, 53), (51, 54), (80, 83), (81, 90, 93), (82, 94), (100, 103, 121, 124), (101, 104, 110, 122), (102, 111, 114, 123), (151, 160, 163), (152, 164), (150, 153), (170, 173), (171, 174), (181, 184), (220, 223), (230, 233), (240, 243), (241, 244), (251, 254)
  • Realm of Dice
    disfigured uro (151~162: exists)
    Newly discernable numbers: 150, 152, 153, 163, 164
    Possible Values: (2, 11), (3, 12), (4, 10, 13), (20, 23, 32), (22, 31, 34, 40), (24, 30, 33), (44, 50, 53), (51, 54), (80, 83), (81, 90, 93), (82, 94), (100, 103, 121, 124), (101, 104, 110, 122), (102, 111, 114, 123), (151, 160), (170, 173), (171, 174), (181, 184), (220, 223), (230, 233), (240, 243), (241, 244), (251, 254)
  • Misty Bridges
    Hanako (>=120: exists)
    Newly discernable numbers: 122, 123
    Possible Values: (2, 11), (3, 12), (4, 10, 13), (20, 23, 32), (22, 31, 34, 40), (24, 30, 33), (44, 50, 53), (51, 54), (80, 83), (81, 90, 93), (82, 94), (100, 103), (101, 104, 110), (102, 111, 114), (121, 124), (151, 160), (170, 173), (171, 174), (181, 184), (220, 223), (230, 233), (240, 243), (241, 244), (251, 254)
  • Techno Condominium
    Position of the cat (<=30: on floor 5, >=31: on the roof)
    Newly discernable numbers: 22, 32, 33
    Possible Values: (2, 11), (3, 12), (4, 10, 13), (20, 23), (24, 30), (31, 34, 40), (44, 50, 53), (51, 54), (80, 83), (81, 90, 93), (82, 94), (100, 103), (101, 104, 110), (102, 111, 114), (121, 124), (151, 160), (170, 173), (171, 174), (181, 184), (220, 223), (230, 233), (240, 243), (241, 244), (251, 254)
  • Antiquated Bathhouse
    Actually just go to bathhouse and see if its there
    Newly discernable numbers: 2, 3, 11, 12, 24, 30, 31, 114, 170, 171, 173, 174, 251, 254
    Possible Values: (4, 10, 13), (20, 23), (34, 40), (44, 50, 53), (51, 54), (80, 83), (81, 90, 93), (82, 94), (100, 103), (101, 104, 110), (102, 111), (121, 124), (151, 160), (181, 184), (220, 223), (230, 233), (240, 243), (241, 244)
  • Ahogeko's House
    Pull the lamp 44 times (without getting unlucky lol, >=222: ghost appears)
    Newly discernable numbers: 220, 223
    Possible Values: (4, 10, 13), (20, 23), (34, 40), (44, 50, 53), (51, 54), (80, 83), (81, 90, 93), (82, 94), (100, 103), (101, 104, 110), (102, 111), (121, 124), (151, 160), (181, 184), (230, 233), (240, 243), (241, 244)
    You can also use the Sofa Room with less luck if the season is Spring or Autumn.

Overall, 218 out of 256 possible values (85.15%) can be exactly discerned as of version 0.121b Patch 1.

Become Reasonable

Spoilers:

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The coin in Retro Cartridge Game will give you money that is exactly your current Variable 44 value. This article has omitted mentioning it for the sake of the challenge.

Spoilers end here.